This is a partial repost of previous piece. (For Fresh thread draft remainder).
Starting with the Miami Dolphins first round pick at #11E as the previous pieces Top Five Target, and 2017's Chuck Bednarik/Top Defensive Player as well as the Jim Thorpe/Best DB Award Winner!!
11E S/DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, (a choice of this guy pushes S TJ McDonald to OLB on approximately 75% of defensive plays).
Perhaps the Dolphins believe that they can get two birds with one stone in such a selection?
Should the ""Right One"" of the top 4 QB's leap through the Dolphins slippery fins?
Then Edmunds, Smith, Vea, and Fitzpatrick or the likes of (for good measure) become the obvious targets.
And ""Swiss Army Knife"" FS Minkah Fitzpatrick became the pick of the three who remained at #11 !
Round One (According To Availibility)
1) QB Baker Mayfield (Gone #1)
2) LB Tremaine Edmunds, VTech (went 16)
3) LB Roquon Smith (Gone #8)
4) DT Vita Vea, Wash (went 12)
5) FS Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
( YOUR MIAMI DOLPHIN )!!!
6) QB Lamar Jackson (went #32)
7) QB Josh Allen (Gone #7))
8) LB Leighton Vander Esch (went 19 )
9) OLB/DE Harold Landry, Boston College
10) T Mike McGlinchey (went 9)
11) G Will Hernandez, UTEP
This inclusion was derived via the previous comment section (Pre-Draft).
Round Two
(Positionally Dependent on Round One)
1) TE Dallas Goedert (Joe Dirt), South Dakota State
2) TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State
3) DE Marcus Davenport (went 14)
4) LB Uchenna Nwosu, USC
5) FS Justin Reid,
(see below, don't need him)
6) S Ronnie Harrison, Bama
(Already landed Bama FS Fitz)
7) DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford
8) DT Mo Hurst, Michigan
9) RB Nick Chubb, Georgia
10) RB Rashad Penny (went 27)
11) G/T/C Isiah Wynn (went 23)
Round Three
(Positionally Dependent on Rounds One & Two)
1) QB Mason Rudolph, Oak State
2)TE Mark Andrews, Oak
3 DE Sam Hubbard, Thee OS
4) LB Jerome Baker, Thee OS
5) FS Jesse Bates III (Got FS Fitz)
6) OT Geron Christen, Louisville
7) C/G Billy Price, Thee OS
8) RB Royce Freeman, Oregon
9) QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond
Round Four
1) K Eddie Piniero, Florida
2) TE Ian Thomas, Indiana
3) TE Chris Herndon, TheU
4) DE Jalyn Holmes, Thee OS
5) RB Mark Walton, TheU
6) S Terrell Edmunds, VTech (went 28)
7) QB Mike White, Western Kentucky
Round Six
1) QB Kyle Allen, Houston
2) WR Braxton Barrios, TheU
Just a quickie for fresh thread via drafts remainder..
Day Two, Rounds Two & Three commence at 7pm today/Friday, Day Three Rounds 4 - 7 begin at noon Saturday, ENJOY!!!
GOFINS!!!
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Thursday, April 26, 2018
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Miami Dolphin Draft Hopefuls
2018-04-26T02:52:00-04:00
KennyV (13kvFINS) Nicholas
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Miami Dolphins To Trade, Stay, or Trade ?
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Sunday, April 22, 2018
Posted by
KennyV (13kvFINS) Nicholas
""ITTT'S TIMEEE"" (Thank You Bruce Buffer).
The 2018 NFL Draft has arrived when on Thursday April 26 at 8pm Est the Cleveland Browns will officially be "On The Clock".
According to the Draft Trade Value Chart which illustrates the pre-draft points worth of every selection in the draft.
The Miami Dolphins presently scheduled picks induvidual worth,
and combined grand total are as is.
Round 1
Pick 11 = 1250 points
Round 2
Pick 42 = 480
Round 3
Pick 73 = 225
Round 4
Pick 123 = 49
Pick 131 = 41
Round 6
Pick 209 = 7.4
Round 7
Pick 227 = 1
Pick 229 = 1
--------------------------
Total Worth = 2054.4
Draft Trade Value Points
If Chance had it's way?
For one single, particular, potential Franchise Quarterback of the future.
The Dolphins could consider trading away their entire draft, or at least the most part of their 8 presently scheduled (2018) selections.
Everybody knows that there are FOUR Highly Touted QB's projected to be picked between picks one, and twelve!
(If not within the first 5 to 6 picks)?
Everybody knows that Cleveland will take one of these QB's with most likely pick #1, for sure #4 if RB Barkley goes first!
#2 NYG ? Would love Barkley, or perhaps Eli's protege?
The World knows that the NYJets didn't move up into the top 3 for anything other than a QB!!
The Galaxies know the names of these four premiere Quarterbacks are (in no particular order), Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and ((( Baker Mayfield )))!! PS, according to Todd McShay. None of this year's QB's have a higher pre-draft grade than our own 2018 starter Ryan Tannehill!!
So Miami's total (2018) draft worth equates to 2054.4 points!
The Dolphins can not get to
#1 Cleveland = 3000
#2 NY Giants = 2600
or
#3 NY Jets = 2200
(Bad Business For Both Anyways).
Miami Not being able to work a deal for picks 1 or 2 is factored in via only (2018) picks while excluding the very real possibility of getting there with an offering of #11, and 2019's first round selection. Miami's 2019 first round pick could be worth anywhere between pick #32's 590, or the 3000 point first overall pick. By giving it up (along with #11's 1250). In this case, it would count as 1750 points which equates to a top four to five pick in 2019.
Somewhat of a steal for the Dolphins. If they were to do the usual and finish Mid-pack or better. Basically, (if Miami were to finish in the bottom five)? It would breakdown to our 2019 top five pick (while throwing in this years #11 plus whatever) for one of 2018's top two picks. It would have to be The NYG at #2. But lets not give that too much hype as it would pretty much decimate Miami's 2018, and 2019 draft options. No-Way does Cleveland trade #1!
But if they get their QB at one? They may consider trading #4 (If RB Barkley is gone)?
#4 Cleveland = 1800
(which would require everything other than our 3rd round pick in 2018.)
#5 Denver landed QB Case Keenum in FA for two years and may be interested in a future franchise QB. Shot-Caller John Elway suggest that Keenum was their man all along, and that they are open to potentially trading pick #5.
(Which is worth 1700 points).
Do the math with Denver and Miami can get to #5 for picks #11 & 42, and keep the rest. Bronco's could offer their 30 point fifth round pick #149 for an exact point value trade.
#6 Indy says that they are taking calls on this pick worth 1600 points.(According to the Draft Trade Value Chart). It is feesible that The Dolphins could get to this Colts selection with an exchange of (Miami's #11 & 42 worth 1730) for (Indy's first round pick #6, forth round #104, & fifth round #140 total of 1721.5). But to trade down. The Colts would likely be looking to gather more picks, not spend them. If thats the route they choose? Our entire draft other than our second round pick comes within 25 of the total point value cost for pick #6.
#11 Miami (#'s 42, 73, 123, 131 plus)
#12 Buffalo (#'s 22, 53, 56, 65 plus)
#15 Arizona ( #'s 47, 79 plus)
#16 Baltimore (#'s 52, 83 plus)
#17 LA Chargers (#'s 48, 84 plus)
#23 New England (#'s 31, 43, 63 plus)
Potentially.
All are bidding for picks 4 - 6 and their QB dreams of the future. Obviously a couple teams can easily afford to get #1 if it were on the market, while also having more than enough leverage to overpay (the goin rate) for picks 4, 5, 6, & all the way to pick #10, (if so be it).
All the potential tradeup/down deals have already been discussed between suggested franchises, the ground work has been laid out. So and so, will give so and so, so and so, if so and so is available at so and so number pick.
If so, sign-ze-papel.
Otherwise.
They will all be hoping that their Head Coaches one and only Quarterback of four falls to where they presently pick.
If it were this fans choice. The Bills and/or Pats don't leap-frog Miami for any picks between #'s 2 - 10. And.
The Miami Dolphins at pick 11select Baker Mayfield. Otherwise. Gotta get to at least pick 5, or 6. (If he is still there)? No Bro-Mance from this guy for Darnold, Rosen, or Josh Allen. Adam Gase may see things differently? JAllen if any of the four other than Mayfield, but personally it's Baker, Lamar Jackson, then Josh Allen at QB for me. Meanwhile, due to a few ill-advised words while in the spotlight, and with questions of his commitment and/or ""love"" for the game coming about. Rosen may be the one who drastically falls, and who knows. Maybe he is the ""Right One"" in the eyes of Adam Gase?
Gase has suggested.
""Sure I'd like to grab a QB, but it's gotta be the (Right One)""!!
I wouldn't put it past the Dolphin fan teasing football gods to have the ""Right One"" QB available at pick 10 when Oakland goes on the clock. And at that moment Buffalo at 12 jumps Miami at 11 with a deal that the Raiders God Father Gruden can't refuse.
Alright, so it's obvious that for me The Miami Dolphins first pick somehow, someway ends up being a guy that will be recognized by just the mention of his first name, Baker. (Or the QB that Adam Gase see's as the ""Right One""!
11A QB Baker
11B LB Tremaine Edmunds
11C LB Roquon Smith
11D DT Vita Vea
11E S/DB Minkah Fitzpatrick/Derwin James (a choice of one of these two pushes S TJ McDonald to OLB on approximately 75% of defensive plays).
Perhaps the Dolphins believe that they can get two birds with one stone in such a selection?
Should the ""Right One"" of the top 4 QB's leap through the Dolphins slippery fins?
Then Edmunds, Smith, Vea, and Fitzpatrick or the likes of (for good measure) become the obvious targets.
11B & C Edmunds and Smith may require trading up to picks 7 - 10. If the brass so desires? The Bucs Pick 7 can be had for #11 along with one 3rd & 4th round pick.
Da'Bears #8 and 4th round #105 is gettable via Miami's #11 & 3rd round pick #73.
The Whinners #9 can be had for the Dolphins #11, and two 4th round selections.
The Raiders Pick 10 can be had for #11 and a 4th. (All according to the Draft Trade Value Chart) which will be included via this threads first comment.
11D Vita Vea is the most assured prospect of Dolphin positional priority to most likely be available at #11. He is by far the best DT in this draft, and would easily be a top ten pick if not for the abundance and need of top ten QB's. He could very well be the second coming of Ndamukong Suh? He requires double teams on every play and with ten years of youth on his side can be had for 25 million fewer dollars yearly than was Suh. With Suh's dead money. The Dolphins are still highly invested financially at the position of DT. With the selection of a Vita Vea, Miami will at least get some value/production for the dollars being given to one no longer on the roster. Vea would start on opening day alongside Miami's current #1 DT Jordan Phillips who is scheduled to be a 2019 FA.
S/DB Minkah Fitzpatrick (or the likes of/Derwin James) most likely come into play only if 11A, B, C, & D are gone at 11.
Or, If Miami were to trade down from 11 to where if any of the above were to fall could possibly become Pick 15 - 20 A.
15 - 20 (two options per)
B. QB Lamar Jackson
C. TE Mike Giseki
D. LB Leighton Vander-Esch
E. LB Rashaan Evans
F. DE Marcus Davenport
G. TE Dallas Goedert
H. G/T/C Isiah Wynn
I. T Mike McGlinchey
J. C/G Billy Price
K. LB Uchenna Nwosu
For instance;
For pick #15.
The Dolphins could potentially trade down for Arizona's pick, and gain a 3rd round pick #79 overall. (Though for Arizona to do so, they'd probably be targeting QB Lamar Jackson)!
Or
For pick #20
Miami can move down to Detroits selection, and acquire an additional 2nd round pick #51 overall.
Obviously
Picks #16 - 19 will also bring a similar additional high draft pick south.
And The Miami Dolphins can still land someone of the highest rated prospects placed between picks 11E & 15 - 20 K!
This fan badly wants Baker, Tremaine, Roquon, or Vita Vea, and think that if Miami gets stuck at #11.
Vita Vea is the most likely to be there!
If all are gone?
QB Lamar Jackson was my favorite way back when (2 years) before discovering Mayfield, and would be my choice at 11. Baker & Lamar are the only QB's in this class that have already displayed a serious ""IT"" about them!!
Just one fans calculations, and Ive been wrong before.
Actually just once.
And that was a case when I thought I was wrong but I was actually right.
OMG, Honey don't get mad, I was just kidd'n. Alright, alright, but on the way home can you grab some pastries from that guy with the funny hat.
OPPPS, GOTTA GO !!!
GOFINS!!!
What do you folks think?
And with the Miami Dolphins pick #? they select?
The 2018 NFL Draft has arrived when on Thursday April 26 at 8pm Est the Cleveland Browns will officially be "On The Clock".
According to the Draft Trade Value Chart which illustrates the pre-draft points worth of every selection in the draft.
The Miami Dolphins presently scheduled picks induvidual worth,
and combined grand total are as is.
Round 1
Pick 11 = 1250 points
Round 2
Pick 42 = 480
Round 3
Pick 73 = 225
Round 4
Pick 123 = 49
Pick 131 = 41
Round 6
Pick 209 = 7.4
Round 7
Pick 227 = 1
Pick 229 = 1
--------------------------
Total Worth = 2054.4
Draft Trade Value Points
If Chance had it's way?
For one single, particular, potential Franchise Quarterback of the future.
The Dolphins could consider trading away their entire draft, or at least the most part of their 8 presently scheduled (2018) selections.
Everybody knows that there are FOUR Highly Touted QB's projected to be picked between picks one, and twelve!
(If not within the first 5 to 6 picks)?
Everybody knows that Cleveland will take one of these QB's with most likely pick #1, for sure #4 if RB Barkley goes first!
#2 NYG ? Would love Barkley, or perhaps Eli's protege?
The World knows that the NYJets didn't move up into the top 3 for anything other than a QB!!
The Galaxies know the names of these four premiere Quarterbacks are (in no particular order), Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and ((( Baker Mayfield )))!! PS, according to Todd McShay. None of this year's QB's have a higher pre-draft grade than our own 2018 starter Ryan Tannehill!!
So Miami's total (2018) draft worth equates to 2054.4 points!
The Dolphins can not get to
#1 Cleveland = 3000
#2 NY Giants = 2600
or
#3 NY Jets = 2200
(Bad Business For Both Anyways).
Miami Not being able to work a deal for picks 1 or 2 is factored in via only (2018) picks while excluding the very real possibility of getting there with an offering of #11, and 2019's first round selection. Miami's 2019 first round pick could be worth anywhere between pick #32's 590, or the 3000 point first overall pick. By giving it up (along with #11's 1250). In this case, it would count as 1750 points which equates to a top four to five pick in 2019.
Somewhat of a steal for the Dolphins. If they were to do the usual and finish Mid-pack or better. Basically, (if Miami were to finish in the bottom five)? It would breakdown to our 2019 top five pick (while throwing in this years #11 plus whatever) for one of 2018's top two picks. It would have to be The NYG at #2. But lets not give that too much hype as it would pretty much decimate Miami's 2018, and 2019 draft options. No-Way does Cleveland trade #1!
But if they get their QB at one? They may consider trading #4 (If RB Barkley is gone)?
#4 Cleveland = 1800
(which would require everything other than our 3rd round pick in 2018.)
#5 Denver landed QB Case Keenum in FA for two years and may be interested in a future franchise QB. Shot-Caller John Elway suggest that Keenum was their man all along, and that they are open to potentially trading pick #5.
(Which is worth 1700 points).
Do the math with Denver and Miami can get to #5 for picks #11 & 42, and keep the rest. Bronco's could offer their 30 point fifth round pick #149 for an exact point value trade.
#6 Indy says that they are taking calls on this pick worth 1600 points.(According to the Draft Trade Value Chart). It is feesible that The Dolphins could get to this Colts selection with an exchange of (Miami's #11 & 42 worth 1730) for (Indy's first round pick #6, forth round #104, & fifth round #140 total of 1721.5). But to trade down. The Colts would likely be looking to gather more picks, not spend them. If thats the route they choose? Our entire draft other than our second round pick comes within 25 of the total point value cost for pick #6.
#11 Miami (#'s 42, 73, 123, 131 plus)
#12 Buffalo (#'s 22, 53, 56, 65 plus)
#15 Arizona ( #'s 47, 79 plus)
#16 Baltimore (#'s 52, 83 plus)
#17 LA Chargers (#'s 48, 84 plus)
#23 New England (#'s 31, 43, 63 plus)
Potentially.
All are bidding for picks 4 - 6 and their QB dreams of the future. Obviously a couple teams can easily afford to get #1 if it were on the market, while also having more than enough leverage to overpay (the goin rate) for picks 4, 5, 6, & all the way to pick #10, (if so be it).
All the potential tradeup/down deals have already been discussed between suggested franchises, the ground work has been laid out. So and so, will give so and so, so and so, if so and so is available at so and so number pick.
If so, sign-ze-papel.
Otherwise.
They will all be hoping that their Head Coaches one and only Quarterback of four falls to where they presently pick.
If it were this fans choice. The Bills and/or Pats don't leap-frog Miami for any picks between #'s 2 - 10. And.
The Miami Dolphins at pick 11select Baker Mayfield. Otherwise. Gotta get to at least pick 5, or 6. (If he is still there)? No Bro-Mance from this guy for Darnold, Rosen, or Josh Allen. Adam Gase may see things differently? JAllen if any of the four other than Mayfield, but personally it's Baker, Lamar Jackson, then Josh Allen at QB for me. Meanwhile, due to a few ill-advised words while in the spotlight, and with questions of his commitment and/or ""love"" for the game coming about. Rosen may be the one who drastically falls, and who knows. Maybe he is the ""Right One"" in the eyes of Adam Gase?
Gase has suggested.
""Sure I'd like to grab a QB, but it's gotta be the (Right One)""!!
I wouldn't put it past the Dolphin fan teasing football gods to have the ""Right One"" QB available at pick 10 when Oakland goes on the clock. And at that moment Buffalo at 12 jumps Miami at 11 with a deal that the Raiders God Father Gruden can't refuse.
Alright, so it's obvious that for me The Miami Dolphins first pick somehow, someway ends up being a guy that will be recognized by just the mention of his first name, Baker. (Or the QB that Adam Gase see's as the ""Right One""!
11A QB Baker
11B LB Tremaine Edmunds
11C LB Roquon Smith
11D DT Vita Vea
11E S/DB Minkah Fitzpatrick/Derwin James (a choice of one of these two pushes S TJ McDonald to OLB on approximately 75% of defensive plays).
Perhaps the Dolphins believe that they can get two birds with one stone in such a selection?
Should the ""Right One"" of the top 4 QB's leap through the Dolphins slippery fins?
Then Edmunds, Smith, Vea, and Fitzpatrick or the likes of (for good measure) become the obvious targets.
11B & C Edmunds and Smith may require trading up to picks 7 - 10. If the brass so desires? The Bucs Pick 7 can be had for #11 along with one 3rd & 4th round pick.
Da'Bears #8 and 4th round #105 is gettable via Miami's #11 & 3rd round pick #73.
The Whinners #9 can be had for the Dolphins #11, and two 4th round selections.
The Raiders Pick 10 can be had for #11 and a 4th. (All according to the Draft Trade Value Chart) which will be included via this threads first comment.
11D Vita Vea is the most assured prospect of Dolphin positional priority to most likely be available at #11. He is by far the best DT in this draft, and would easily be a top ten pick if not for the abundance and need of top ten QB's. He could very well be the second coming of Ndamukong Suh? He requires double teams on every play and with ten years of youth on his side can be had for 25 million fewer dollars yearly than was Suh. With Suh's dead money. The Dolphins are still highly invested financially at the position of DT. With the selection of a Vita Vea, Miami will at least get some value/production for the dollars being given to one no longer on the roster. Vea would start on opening day alongside Miami's current #1 DT Jordan Phillips who is scheduled to be a 2019 FA.
S/DB Minkah Fitzpatrick (or the likes of/Derwin James) most likely come into play only if 11A, B, C, & D are gone at 11.
Or, If Miami were to trade down from 11 to where if any of the above were to fall could possibly become Pick 15 - 20 A.
15 - 20 (two options per)
B. QB Lamar Jackson
C. TE Mike Giseki
D. LB Leighton Vander-Esch
E. LB Rashaan Evans
F. DE Marcus Davenport
G. TE Dallas Goedert
H. G/T/C Isiah Wynn
I. T Mike McGlinchey
J. C/G Billy Price
K. LB Uchenna Nwosu
For instance;
For pick #15.
The Dolphins could potentially trade down for Arizona's pick, and gain a 3rd round pick #79 overall. (Though for Arizona to do so, they'd probably be targeting QB Lamar Jackson)!
Or
For pick #20
Miami can move down to Detroits selection, and acquire an additional 2nd round pick #51 overall.
Obviously
Picks #16 - 19 will also bring a similar additional high draft pick south.
And The Miami Dolphins can still land someone of the highest rated prospects placed between picks 11E & 15 - 20 K!
This fan badly wants Baker, Tremaine, Roquon, or Vita Vea, and think that if Miami gets stuck at #11.
Vita Vea is the most likely to be there!
If all are gone?
QB Lamar Jackson was my favorite way back when (2 years) before discovering Mayfield, and would be my choice at 11. Baker & Lamar are the only QB's in this class that have already displayed a serious ""IT"" about them!!
Just one fans calculations, and Ive been wrong before.
Actually just once.
And that was a case when I thought I was wrong but I was actually right.
OMG, Honey don't get mad, I was just kidd'n. Alright, alright, but on the way home can you grab some pastries from that guy with the funny hat.
OPPPS, GOTTA GO !!!
GOFINS!!!
What do you folks think?
And with the Miami Dolphins pick #? they select?
Miami Dolphins To Trade, Stay, or Trade ?
2018-04-22T22:09:00-04:00
KennyV (13kvFINS) Nicholas
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Random Draft Musings
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Sunday, April 15, 2018
Posted by
Patrick Tarell
By Joe Tarell (AKA Quadzilla)
Every draft has a theme and this one is no different. Sometimes they are defined by the top draft pick, if it is someone who is clearly the best, but usually it is by positional strength or weakness. Last year there was a clear lack of offensive linemen and this was clear at the start of free agency when O-linemen got deals that were way too high for their skill level. Might be just the opposite this year, but most people consider it the year of the quarterback.
What is strange this year is that the best offensive lineman is a guard. This usually signals a weak class because LT is the premier position on the line and some would say is second only to QB in importance on a team. But there is a strong OT class this year, just not strong enough to out rank Quentin Nelson, the guard from Notre Dame. He might turn out to be the best player in this class 15 years from now. He is big enough and quick enough to play tackle, but has a nasty streak and the pulling ability that lends itself well to guard. He should go top five unless the QB class dominates that group. If Nelson slips some team in the second five will be very happy. There is almost no chance he gets to the Dolphins at 11 unless all six quarterbacks go in the top ten. Yes, I said six... more on that later.
There could be as many as seven O-linemen in the first round. The run will start sometime after the Redskins pick at 13. By then Nelson will be gone and those that need OL help will start taking tackles like Mike McGlinchey from Notre Dame, Connor Williams from Texas, or Kolton Miller from UCLA. But there are also interior players getting attention like Will Hernandez from UTEP who blew up the combine, Isaiah Wynn who played tackle at Georgia but projects to guard, then there are G/C players like James Daniels from Iowa, Billy Price from OSU and even Frank Ragnow from Arkansas. There is also a good second tier of players likely to go in rounds two through four.
Last year there were only two O-linemen taken in the first round but seven defensive backs and 57 total in the entire draft. Conversely, there were only 33 O-linemen taken. It won't flip flop this year but let's just say it will be more even. The DB's in this class do not have the elite talent that we have seen in years past. The consensus number one corner, Denzel Ward from OSU, is only 5'10" and is not really a consensus. Many people see the two safeties, Derwin James from FSU and Minkah Fitzpatrick from Alabama going ahead of a CB. By the time the first round is complete we will likely see Josh Jackson from Iowa, who has good tape but lacks measurables, Jaire Alexander from Louisville and possibly Mike Hughes from UCF. The interesting thing is that all the corners mentioned above have one thing in common; they each have but one year of starting experience because they were beaten out, transferred or injured. Ward gets the consensus label because he was beaten out by guys who were also first round picks at Ohio State.
We may still see seven or more DB's go in the first round because of the premium on those positions but it is just not that strong a class. We all know that the premium positions are those that pass the ball, protect the passer, sack the passer or defend the pass. Notice that catching it is not part of that group. WR is the hardest position to draft. They are typically among the most arrogant divas on the field but they are totally dependent on others for their success. This topic could be a full length article of its own but suffice it to say that there are very few receivers in this draft class that warrant risking the IME to draft in the first round. Maybe Calvin Ridley from Alabama but that is a risk when all you hear are excuses why he didn't have bigger numbers in college and why his small stature is not that big a deal.
For those who don't know, the term IME was coined a few years ago to try and measure a draftee’s potential to bust. It stands for Instant Millionaire Effect. Let's take some examples to clarify this effect using current or past prospects. Orlando Brown is an OT from Oklahoma who protected the Heisman winner's blind side for three years and some project as a first round talent. The IME says that if you are fat (400 lbs. in high school) and lazy (14 reps on the bench press) these deficiencies will not get better if you are drafted in the first round and guaranteed 12 to 25 million dollars. Reuben Foster from Alabama was widely considered one of the top five most talented players last year, but went 31st to the 49ers because he had failed drug tests and got kicked out of the combine for abusive behavior with some medical staffers. Perhaps had he fallen out of round one and out of the guaranteed millionaire category he might have gotten humbled and would not have three felony charges right now.
The Wide Receiver position is becoming the Dime-a-Dozen position that RB has been in recent years. RB has had that label because it used to be that the best kid on every Pop Warner field was put at RB so by the time you got to the NFL they were all really good so you don't want to waste a first round pick on one who will be out of the league in four years anyway because of the abuse on their body. When looking at the talent in this draft at WR, and considering the IME and diva potential, most teams will wait until later in the draft and try to get someone with skills that is a little hungrier and might actually block someone. With the proliferation of the spread at lower levels of football and most parents scared of little Johnny getting hurt, everybody wants to be a WR. It is likely we see more TE's than WR's in the first round for the first time ever.
There are three or four TE's likely to go high with Mike Gesicki from Penn State the most talented, Hayden Hurst from South Carolina the most complete and Dallas Goedert the most intriguing. Goedert has some great tape. The problem is he played at South Dakota State and has yet to run a 40. He was never wide open against inferior competition, but yet he caught everything thrown his way. Gesicki has sick skills, running a 4.54 with 41 inch vertical at nearly 6'6" and had good production in the Big Ten but he has yet to meet a defender he wanted to block. Hurst seems to be the best combo TE but he is 25 years old after washing out in pro baseball because of the yips (I thought those were only in golf). And finally there is Mark Andrews from Oklahoma who is less talented than Gesicki, but with more production (perhaps because he had a Heisman winner as his QB and roommate).
The defensive line is not particularly strong this year, especially when it comes to pass rushers. Bradley Chubb from NC State is considered the best and then it drops off quite a bit. Marcus Davenport is the Jason Pierre Paul, Barkevious Mingo of this draft class. He is built like the next Charles Haley, but he played at UT San Antonio. Maybe he is JPP or maybe he is Barkevious; someone will be intrigued enough by the measurables to gamble on him in the first round. Harold Landry from Boston College should go in the first round but only to a 3-4 teams that projects him to OLB even though he had his hand in the dirt as a 250 pound DE in college. He has the bend and speed to get around the corner so he is worth the risk even if he is just a situational pass rusher until he gets a little bigger and stronger.
The interior of the DL is also a little sparse with first round talent. Vita Vea from Washington is the best of this group and can really move for a 340 pounder. Having played some running back in high school he has the look of a bigger version Warren Sapp. There is pretty big drop off after that to DaRon Payne from Alabama and Taven Bryan from Florida. Payne is not the athlete that Bryan is but he has the production. Bryan gets an IME label though because when you see talented, but lazy in college, it doesn't usually get better with a fat bank account. Some would say that Maurice Hurst from Michigan is the best of the bunch, and if the NFL team's doctors give his heart a clean bill of health he could go before any of them.
Okay so we have gone this far without mentioning the quarterbacks why not wait a little longer. There are a few special players in this draft, but they are not at the premium positions. Nelson was already mentioned and next in line is Saquon Barkley, the RB from Penn State. He is really special in that he runs, catches, blocks, returns and has been known to throw. He should be special... for four or five years. The other guys who look like they could be special are LB’s Roquan Smith from Georgia and Tremaine Edmunds out of Virgina Tech. Smith is a little small but he plays really fast and had big time production against big time talent. Edmunds looks like a Brian Urlacher clone and he is only 19 years old with a great football family pedigree. Neither of these guys are rush linebackers so that hurts their draft value but they can both make a ton of plays and most importantly, especially for Dolphin fans, they are three down linebackers, playing the pass as well as the run. Leighton Vander Esch from Boise State could go later in the first round, but doesn't have enough quality tape to compare to these two LB's.
And finally we get to those six quarterbacks I mentioned earlier; Baker Mayfield, OU, Sam Darnold, USC, Josh Rosen, UCLA, Josh Allen, Wyoming, Mason Rudolph, OK State and Lamar Jackson from Louisville. And yes, I would draft them in that order. Allen, Rudolph and Jackson do not belong in the first round but, you know, that whole premium position thing. The key is to decide who needs one badly enough to take one at their position in the draft order or trade into a spot to get one. The Jets have already played their hand, and Cleveland is so bad at drafting QB's they should take two. The Giants are smoke screening about not picking a QB. Eli Manning is old, he was never that great anyway and nobody expects them to be drafting at number two again anytime soon. Buffalo and Arizona do not have an adequate starter. So there are five landing spots. Throw in New England, Pittsburgh, LA Chargers and New Orleans who have old starters and Miami, Jacksonville and Denver who have questionable starters along with Cincinnati and Baltimore who should be questioning their starters, and it is easy to see six go in the first 32 or 35 picks.
So, if you were paying attention there is a mock draft in there. There were 37 names of players in this draft mentioned above, not counting Orlando Brown who was mentioned only so he could be disparaged. You guys figure out what order and to whom and that's a pretty good guesstimate of who gets picked on Thursday the 26th. This list is lighter on WR and RB and heavier on OL and TE than some, but everybody has their biases. Put them in order, let’s see your best mock.
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2018-04-15T09:48:00-04:00
Patrick Tarell
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For the Miami Dolphins, it's all in a Name
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Friday, April 06, 2018
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Patrick Tarell
The Miami Dolphins continue to interview quarterback candidates and leak information about selecting one in the 2018 draft. If QB is king, the name-game and misinformation is closer to the Game of Thrones leading up to the NFL draft.
One name-game to guide them...
One name-game to rule them all...
If the Dolphins can scare enough teams into leaping ahead for one of this coveted class of signal callers, then the players Miami really wants will fall in their lap. Adam Gase may indeed love Baker Mayfield, and Josh Rosen may be a perfect match for Gase’s whispering, but it’s all enticement to lure other teams into the web of deceit.
It is possible one of these players will actually fall, there are mock drafts with this year’s biggest arm, Josh Allen falling to the 2nd round. There’s local Phenom and Heisman trophy winner Lamar Jackson wondering what he has to do to get into the mix at 11. Of course, there are trade up with the Colts rumors and trade down rumors circulating everywhere on the internet.
It’s the wonderment and pageantry of the NFL Draft…
In year’s past, entire businesses were established to publish magazines cataloging college players. It was the Sears Catalog of sports, stats and body measurements ranked and rated by a select few insiders who made a living scouting players.
Then the internet happened…
Just like every Smart Phone junky with a Tweeter account can troll till their heart’s content, every adroit or even casual fan can become a draft expert. No one seems certain if it’s Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold or Allen who will attempt to become the savior in Cleveland. There are even pundits believing the Browns should select Saquon and let the QB that falls to pick number 4 be the guy.
The real problem for NFL teams is in the names…
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Josh Allen
See, QBs need the proper name to go with the face of the franchise. Baker Mayfield, come-on, that’s unfair! Baker Mayfield, if that name doesn’t sound like the next Joe Montana or Dan Marino, I don’t know which does.
Sam Darnold is good, it has a ring. Josh Rosen or Josh Allen, well they’re okay, but they’re no Andrew Luck, that’s for certain.
It circles back to Miami - Ryan Tannehill. There it is, all in a name, Ryan Tannehill… See, “Baker” is going to turn into a name of its own, when someone says Baker, it won’t be a poem about a candle stick maker, it’ll be the great NFL quarterback Baker Mayfield.
Ryan Tannehill is distinctly mediocre or maybe even a little less. It just doesn’t roll off the tongue, even the nick-name people have tried.
T-Hill...
It’s like no one even wants to type the whole name. Miami is presently filled with crappy names at QB. David Fales, my goodness, it’s amazing this poor guy has survived as a back-up for so long with a name like “Fales!”
Brock Osweiler… Really!
Ryan Tannehill
Brock Osweiler
David Fales
Jesus, T-Hill doesn’t sound that bad when you look at these names together…
The first time the name-game came up at our draft gathering was way back with a wide receiver named - Limas Sweed. Poor Limas never had a chance. I’m not sure what his mom was thinking, but it is just a name that was never destined for greatness.
Ryan Tannehill, sounds like a great proctologist, but an NFL franchise QB, maybe not. Brock Osweiler or David Fales, definitely not!
Lamar Jackson is okay, not great, but better than we got!
Mason Rudolph? That one’s really interesting. It’s could range from some haughty zillionaire’s son, to a red-nosed reindeer’s cousin but it definitely has a ring. It just may not inspire guys with distinctly other-side-of-the-tracks type of names.
It’s all about the locker room, a lawyer’s name may not ring with fellows who feel the need to kneel at the symbol of their country’s laws, but I digress…
Luke Falk… Use the fork Luke, I mean the force! No, it’s not a bad name, really!
So where are we on this name thing? I think I’m on to something and we need to check back in a few years and see if it all pans out…
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Lamar Jackson
Those three names are melodic, Mayfield is by far the best, Darnold and Jackson are good. In the case of reality, it means Lamar Jackson is the Miami Dolphin’s choice. Mayfield and Darnold will be gone at 11 and Jackson could survive until 42, but it’s very unlikely, because it’s all in a name…
Ever notice how the winner of those weekly pick the team pools is always some nit-wit who says, “I just picked the names I liked!” They’re laughing at us, right…
“Call me nit-wit while you hand over your $20.00 bill, nit-wit!”
How about a little closer to the truth, Roquan Smith? Roquan? I’m sure someone in their tweeter fueled anonymity will jump me for daring to say, Roquan is just not very good. Sorry - me no likey!
Tremaine Edmunds…
I’m going with Tremaine, it has a certain flow that seems to glide off the tongue, like Tremaine gliding through the middle of the defense and bashing a running back.
“On the tackle, Tremaine Edmunds!” “Tremaine Edmunds just slipped through the entire offensive line and planted that QB on his backside!”
“And with the eleventh pick in the draft, the Miami Dolphins select…”
Tremaine Edmunds
One name-game to guide them...
One name-game to rule them all...
If the Dolphins can scare enough teams into leaping ahead for one of this coveted class of signal callers, then the players Miami really wants will fall in their lap. Adam Gase may indeed love Baker Mayfield, and Josh Rosen may be a perfect match for Gase’s whispering, but it’s all enticement to lure other teams into the web of deceit.
It is possible one of these players will actually fall, there are mock drafts with this year’s biggest arm, Josh Allen falling to the 2nd round. There’s local Phenom and Heisman trophy winner Lamar Jackson wondering what he has to do to get into the mix at 11. Of course, there are trade up with the Colts rumors and trade down rumors circulating everywhere on the internet.
It’s the wonderment and pageantry of the NFL Draft…
In year’s past, entire businesses were established to publish magazines cataloging college players. It was the Sears Catalog of sports, stats and body measurements ranked and rated by a select few insiders who made a living scouting players.
Then the internet happened…
Just like every Smart Phone junky with a Tweeter account can troll till their heart’s content, every adroit or even casual fan can become a draft expert. No one seems certain if it’s Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold or Allen who will attempt to become the savior in Cleveland. There are even pundits believing the Browns should select Saquon and let the QB that falls to pick number 4 be the guy.
The real problem for NFL teams is in the names…
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Josh Allen
See, QBs need the proper name to go with the face of the franchise. Baker Mayfield, come-on, that’s unfair! Baker Mayfield, if that name doesn’t sound like the next Joe Montana or Dan Marino, I don’t know which does.
Sam Darnold is good, it has a ring. Josh Rosen or Josh Allen, well they’re okay, but they’re no Andrew Luck, that’s for certain.
It circles back to Miami - Ryan Tannehill. There it is, all in a name, Ryan Tannehill… See, “Baker” is going to turn into a name of its own, when someone says Baker, it won’t be a poem about a candle stick maker, it’ll be the great NFL quarterback Baker Mayfield.
Ryan Tannehill is distinctly mediocre or maybe even a little less. It just doesn’t roll off the tongue, even the nick-name people have tried.
T-Hill...
It’s like no one even wants to type the whole name. Miami is presently filled with crappy names at QB. David Fales, my goodness, it’s amazing this poor guy has survived as a back-up for so long with a name like “Fales!”
Brock Osweiler… Really!
Ryan Tannehill
Brock Osweiler
David Fales
Jesus, T-Hill doesn’t sound that bad when you look at these names together…
The first time the name-game came up at our draft gathering was way back with a wide receiver named - Limas Sweed. Poor Limas never had a chance. I’m not sure what his mom was thinking, but it is just a name that was never destined for greatness.
Ryan Tannehill, sounds like a great proctologist, but an NFL franchise QB, maybe not. Brock Osweiler or David Fales, definitely not!
Lamar Jackson is okay, not great, but better than we got!
Mason Rudolph? That one’s really interesting. It’s could range from some haughty zillionaire’s son, to a red-nosed reindeer’s cousin but it definitely has a ring. It just may not inspire guys with distinctly other-side-of-the-tracks type of names.
It’s all about the locker room, a lawyer’s name may not ring with fellows who feel the need to kneel at the symbol of their country’s laws, but I digress…
Luke Falk… Use the fork Luke, I mean the force! No, it’s not a bad name, really!
So where are we on this name thing? I think I’m on to something and we need to check back in a few years and see if it all pans out…
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Lamar Jackson
Those three names are melodic, Mayfield is by far the best, Darnold and Jackson are good. In the case of reality, it means Lamar Jackson is the Miami Dolphin’s choice. Mayfield and Darnold will be gone at 11 and Jackson could survive until 42, but it’s very unlikely, because it’s all in a name…
Ever notice how the winner of those weekly pick the team pools is always some nit-wit who says, “I just picked the names I liked!” They’re laughing at us, right…
“Call me nit-wit while you hand over your $20.00 bill, nit-wit!”
How about a little closer to the truth, Roquan Smith? Roquan? I’m sure someone in their tweeter fueled anonymity will jump me for daring to say, Roquan is just not very good. Sorry - me no likey!
Tremaine Edmunds…
I’m going with Tremaine, it has a certain flow that seems to glide off the tongue, like Tremaine gliding through the middle of the defense and bashing a running back.
“On the tackle, Tremaine Edmunds!” “Tremaine Edmunds just slipped through the entire offensive line and planted that QB on his backside!”
“And with the eleventh pick in the draft, the Miami Dolphins select…”
Tremaine Edmunds
For the Miami Dolphins, it's all in a Name
2018-04-06T09:41:00-04:00
Patrick Tarell
2018 NFL Draft|Adam Gase|Baker Mayfield|Brock Osweiler|David Fales|Josh Allen|Josh Rosen|Miami Dolphins|Patrick Tarell|Roquan Smith|Ryan Tannehill|Sam Darnold|Tremaine Edmunds|
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