Heyy fellow Fin-Addicts, hope you're well !!
Excuse me for repeating myself as I've posted most of this in the comments sections,however I put it all together here for those that might be interested and may have missed it!!
The only real reason I wanted Jeff Fisher was so that (in landing a Big-Name) the fans and media would get off of owner Steven Ross and General Manager Jeff Irelands back, and I wouldn't have had to concern myself with Fisher being chased out of town before being given an ample, legitimate, fair opportunity because he had "a name"!! I guess that reasoning is out the door, OHHH-WELL I suggested to everybody that landing someone that's absolutely better than Sparano wouldn't be a given, but most demanded his firing anyways!!
Mr.Fisher runs a conservatively boring ground and pound Offense which would have seriously minimized Reggie Bush and Brandon Marshall's production,(or at least that's what he's been, up to this point)!! In chunk yardage plays for the 2011 season with Matt Moore being the QB of our Dolphins they finished ahead of the Saints with Drew Brees and second only to the Packers with Aaron Rodgers and all those weapons employed by those two elite teams !! Pretty Impressive Huh ?? We would have been denied that type of excitement for the rest of eternity if Fisher were to come here and revert our team back to that of (for the most part) Tony Sparano's 09/010 offensive attitude!! After only 3 yrs Sparano finally started to evolve in 2011 (and it took all he had in him to attempt such a feat), we'd of had to hope like hell that after 17 yrs of comfortable stubbornness Fisher would have been willing to evolve at least to the same extent of what Sparano attempted in order to keep pace with the rest of the league!!
Fisher would have also guaranteed a change of our beginning to jell Defense from a 3 - 4 to a 4-3 base alignment, (though our current D players for the most part) have the versatility to play either the 3-4 or 4-3, an obstacle as such would have cost our team another re-learning process which would have seriously minimized a momentum carry-over from 2011!!
The progress, made in finishing 6-3 would have been derailed to the extreme!! Personally I would have rather kept Sparano (Luv'd the guy, always been a fan) because he was starting to show the ability to evolve, and I didn't believe that longtime veteran Fisher would have been willing to do what we begged of Tony!! I was of the thought that Fisher would bring boring ball back into play for our Dolphins 8[ , and who knows what he would have done to the starting to become cohesive roster??
I wasn't excited whatsoever about Fisher (I was actually depressed during the days it was being suggested that he'll become a Dolphin), because with his 17 years experience, he wouldn't have been likely to go away from running the type of Offense that targeted all the strategies that chased Sparano out of Miami and to our number one rival, a (ground and pound, protect the Defense, playin not to lose) style of Offense!! Sparano started to evolve and we started playing explosive ball, but the fans impression of Tony had already crossed the point of no return..
But at least with Fisher the fans would have had their Big-Name and could have been bored to death in that accomplishment, and the heat would have been off the brass for a minute!! Not sayin that I don't like Fisher (cuz I do), he was actually my top choice (if TS had to go) until the NYG game and an 0 - 7 start when I noticed a change in the teams approach and personality in that loss!! Not sayin that he wouldn't have won, or that he'd of been bad for the organization, just that I was hoping to continue forward progress toward eventually being a go for the throat explosive type offense and team!! NOWWW I'm HAPPY to suggest, THAT WILL TAKE PLACE!!
There are still a bunch-a-gyz available that I'm personally very excited about!! I didn't require a big name, I'd prefer someone hungrier but not necessarily younger that hasn't already made a name for himself!! I really don't think we can go wrong as long as (not gonna blow-it-up) Brian Bowles :))), Winston Moss :)), and Mike Zimmer :) are the only D-minded possibilities along with all the O-minded possibilities, that being Joe Philbin :)))), Rob Chudzinski :)), and Pete Carmichael Jr :), all of whom would move full speed ahead on the current course from both sides of the ball !! Brian Billick is also out there, but he's been black-balled throughout the league for some unknown reasons, leaving him as a far less-desirable option..
I suggested all-along that I wouldn't be horrified with or without Fisher, especially if "without" meant we'd get Green Bays Joe Philbin and FA QB Matt Flynn!! (Seeing that we need TWO QBs) we might as well fill the spot of one with THE TOP YOUNG FA QB, ESPECIALLY with Philbin who's tutored him for 4 yrs!! Shoot with Philbin/Flynn, we'd have the longest tethered at the hip HC/QB duo we've had since Shula/Danny :) !!
I heard folks cryin all yr about how Sparano needs to quit "micro-managing" and allow his staff to do their jobs, and now some will suggest that our new Head-Coach has to have experience calling plays.. Well to that I'd suggest, We're hiring a Head Coach to oversee the process not a coordinator to call the plays, and without Fisher our current coordinators will likely remain in place anyway, so Philbin not calling the Packers plays is no big deal, though he is the one who draws-up the game plan while also being the head architect to such Packer plays!! Whoever comes here will really only need to oversee and correct our Red-Zone approach as far as "play-calling" goes, because we were actually pretty spectacular between the 20's for the last two years, and for the most part Head Coaches don't call play's these day's anyways!!
At this point,(as I had hoped all along), I think Ireland/Ross will stay with Brian DaBoll and Mike Nolan as coordinators (no-matter who the HC ends-up being)!! Kansas City Head Coach Romeo Crennel asked for permission to interview DaBoll for a lateral move to KC as their Offensive Coordinator , Ireland/Ross denied the request !! They also denied St.Louis an interview with Bowles as their potential Head Coach candidate!! All of which suggest to me that the brass prefers minimal detours to our current course!!
I'm personally down to (in order) Philbin, Bowles, Chudzinski, Carmichael Jr, new arrival to my personal wish list Winston Moss who's a Miami Hurricane Alum, ex-NFL player, GB Packer 3 - 4 Inside Linebacker Coach since 2006 who's also been their Assistant Head Coach since January 15, 2007, and projects whats said to be a similar aura to that of Pittsburgh Steeler Head Coach Mike Tomlin, and then there's Zimmer.. I'll be excited about any of the bunch because the 6 - 3 finish will be expanded upon, (ZERO STEPS BACKWARDS)!! Or at least that's how most should see it, seeing that most believed that Sparano would be sooo easyyy to replace in the first place!!
As Bonaposta J-P (one of our many contributors simply suggested), along with numerous others who suggested the same at least to some extent..
""I want a coach who doesn't change much... One who keeps Daboll and Nolan and Rizzi too. One who builds from what he already has. One who betters what's already in place, not one who's going to a "change everything" in the process. One who gives a chance to Ireland because he did quite well this season, believe it or not.""
I promised Ya'All that per-story I'd make mention of one individual that motivated me to write, while all of you have great views my stories are too long as it is to mention everyone :)!! So THANX to Bonaposta J-P (all the way from Belgium I believe) for the inspirational words!!
AWESOME (Onward and upward)!! We Can't afford another team rebuild and O/D scheme change, or site favorite RiverDog won't be around to witness the finality... He's only gonna live to be a hundred, and Fisher's boring style might not have transitioned back into the league till RdG was at least 101 !!
Soo Whatt, our hook was too Big for the Big-Named minnow of Big-Names Jeff Fisher, and he couldn't swallow it, hope he enjoys being a bottom feeder of the Mississippi!!
PHILBIN, Flynn, PHILBIN, Flynn, PHILBIN, Flynn, PHILBIN, Flynn !!!
AGAIN, that scenario would give us the longest tethered together Coach/QB combo (4yrs) we've had since Don Shula and Danny Marino :) !! While everyone continues sayin "keep grabbin QB's until you get it right", but then they wanna hyper-critique every up-and-comer, and suggest that "from their Lazy-Boy a certain someone isn't the right fit".. I don't get it!! So why not Flynn?? He's one QB that we might be able to grab in hopes of "gettin it right"!!
THANX for an Open-Minded Read, and we look forward to your angle of view :) !!
GOFINS!!
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The FISH-er that got away !!
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Sunday, January 15, 2012
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The FISH-er that got away !!
2012-01-15T07:01:00-05:00
KennyV (13kvFINS) Nicholas
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Looking at Potential NFL Coordinators to Coach The Dolphins
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011
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Patrick Tarell
The Coach’s series continues, The Coordinators…
The sheer number of NFL assistant coaches makes any analysis an exhausting proposition and one the Miami Dolphins should not take lightly. Narrowing the search to several highly qualified candidates presents some very interesting choices but in no way should these be thought of as the only and perhaps even the top names. Of the names mentioned on Dolphinshout.com, these coaches stood out for head coaching positions, if not in Miami than certain by other NFL teams.
The Dolphins have clearly had trouble fielding an offense and the next coach must change the offensive dynamic. With the Dolphins’ season spiraling out of control, a rookie QB is certain to join the next coach in Miami. With this in mind, the next coach should one who has worked with QBs and has had success mentoring them at the next level. With the exception of one, the names chosen here reflect that critical need.
Without further adieu, the coordinators…
Rob Ryan is the defensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys. He is the son of famed defensive coordinator and head coach Buddy Ryan and the twin brother of current New York Jets head coach, Rex Ryan. After minor coaching stops through the ranks of college football, Ryan was hire by Oklahoma State as defensive coordinator in 1997. In 2000, Bill Belichick gave him his first pro coaching job as linebacker coach for the Patriots. In 2004, Ryan landed his first defensive coordinator job with the Oakland Raiders. In 2009, he was hire as Cleveland Browns’ defensive coordinator and in 2011; he took the same job with the Dallas Cowboys.
Ryan comes from a prodigious family tree but his defenses have never lived been up to the standards set by his father and his brother. Buddy Ryan coached the famous Bears defenses of the 80’s and is known for perfecting the 46 defense. His brother coached the great Ravens defenses. In 8 years as a defensive coordinator, Ryan’s highest ranking in points allowed is 13th. His average ranking over those 8 years is 22nd. He is currently ranked 18th with the Cowboys.
Ryan’s flowing gray locks, his boisterous on the field manner, along with his pedigree give him a persona that seems to resonate with fans around the league. It is hard to place Ryan in the head-coaching job for the Miami Dolphins. He seems more hype and circumstance than a great coach, but there is no magic formula except the record of a coach in his previous positions. With an average ranking of 22nd in 8 years Ryan has not established himself as an elite coordinator. Miami would be taking quiet a chance if they were to hire Ryan, at one point, he may get a chance, but the situation in Miami would not be a good place to start.

Bruce Arians is the offensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Kansas City Chiefs hired him in 1988 as a running backs coach after 6 seasons as the head coach at Temple University. In 1993, he took over as offensive coordinator at Mississippi State for 3 seasons, and then moved on to the Saints for one season as the tight ends coach. He then spent one year as OC at Alabama.
His big break in the NFL came as the quarterbacks’ coach of the Indianapolis Colts in 1998. He was responsible for mentoring Peyton Manning in Manning’s first two NFL seasons. His success with Manning led to the offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns in 2001. During his stint with Kansas City, he worked with Bill Cowher. He reunited with Cowher in 2004 when Cowher hired him as the wide receivers coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers. In 2007, Cowher promoted him to the offensive coordinator job of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Arians is now responsible for coaching two of the best QBs currently playing in the NFL, Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Arians will get an opportunity as a NFL head coach, soon. He’s been a head coach in college and coordinator in the NFL. He has two Super Bowl rings with the Steelers. Having worked under a great leader in Bill Cowher, he was actually running backs coach for Paul Bear Bryant at Alabama prior to coaching at Temple. Arians knows how to win and that could place him on the Dolphins radar. The only draw back with Arians may be is age, at 59 his coaching days could be winding down.
Bill O'Brien's first coaching position was at Brown, where he coached tight ends in 1993 then inside linebackers in 1994. He would then spend the next eight seasons at Georgia Tech. First as an offensive graduate assistant, then running back coach, all the way to offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2001 and was named an assistant head coach for the 2002 season. Not offered the head-coaching job, he left Georgia Tech in 2003 to coach running backs at the University of Maryland. In 2005, he accepted the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coaching position at Duke University.
O'Brien was hired as an offensive assistant in 2007 by the New England Patriots after two seasons with Duke. In 2008, Belichick promoted him to wide receivers coach. With the departure of offensive coordinator Josh McDaniel, he became the team's quarterback coach and offensive play-caller following the 2008 season, then offensive coordinator this season. O’Brien has been on a fast track in his coaching career raising first though the ranks at Georgia Tech and now through the New England Patriots.
At 42 years of age, O’Brien will be the next head coach to spring from the well of Belichick. He is a relentless worker who is responsible for developing the two tight end offense the Patriots have grown into the past two seasons. Having worked with Tom Brady he has seen first hand what makes a great NFL QB. O’Brien is another coach who should be on the short list for the Dolphins; his familiarity with the Patriots is a definite plus. The knock on O’Brien is he does not have any head-coaching experience at any level.
Pete Carmichael Jr. is in his sixth season with New Orleans Saints. Serving as QB coach his first 3 seasons, he is now in his third season as the Saints’ offensive coordinator. The Saints offense has ranked first in the NFL in yardage in three of the last five seasons and that traces back to Carmichael’s work with Drew Brees. Carmichael called every play in a 62 - 7 domination of the Colts, a game that saw Brees to throw five touchdowns, and included nearly 240 rushing yards.
Carmichael is somewhat of an honorary offensive coordinator as head coach Sean Payton has called the offensive plays since arriving at New Orleans in 2006. After five years in the college ranks, Carmichael’s NFL career began with the Cleveland Browns in 2000 as an offensive assistant and tight ends coach. In 2001, he moved on the Washington Redskins as a quality control coach and then spent 2002-03 with the San Diego Chargers as an offensive assistant quality control coach, before a promotion to wide receivers coach in 2004 and 2005.
At 40 years old, Carmichael is a rising star in the NFL coaching fraternity. Drew Brees came of age under his tutelage and his close work with Sean Patton has created one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL. He is not widely known outside New Orleans, but he is no secret in the NFL and his next move could be head coach, though offensive coordinator, play caller is more likely. He is worth keeping an eye on in Miami because he is a young, up and coming coach with a bright future.
Joe Philbin is the current offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers. He joined the Packers as an offensive line coach in 2003 after numerous college stops and is in his fifth season as offensive coordinator. He is somewhat Jimmy Johnson like with B.A. in sociology and a master's of education in administration and supervision.
He has coached both Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers and his offense has ranked in the top 10 in total yards and total points. Along with the Patriots, Green Bay is one of only two teams in the league to accomplish that feat during his four years. Green Bay’s point total is fourth in the league over that span, trailing only New England, San Diego and New Orleans. Green Bay has reached the playoffs in three of Philbin’s four seasons.
Like Bill O’Brien, Philbin has adapted his offense to use multiple TEs in wide formations. His use of zone blocking has created an offensive line that is nimble and can protect Rodgers as he moves in the pocket. Philbin once quipped, "football's a pretty simple game, learn how to work with the guy next to you. I don't see that being a big issue." Philbin is 50 years old and has 6 children, though highly qualified for the next step he may not be a good fit for the Dolphins. He is a consummate family man and the glamour of Miami may not be a good fit for his family coming from the small town of Green Bay Wisconsin.
Next Installment, College Coaches...
The sheer number of NFL assistant coaches makes any analysis an exhausting proposition and one the Miami Dolphins should not take lightly. Narrowing the search to several highly qualified candidates presents some very interesting choices but in no way should these be thought of as the only and perhaps even the top names. Of the names mentioned on Dolphinshout.com, these coaches stood out for head coaching positions, if not in Miami than certain by other NFL teams.
The Dolphins have clearly had trouble fielding an offense and the next coach must change the offensive dynamic. With the Dolphins’ season spiraling out of control, a rookie QB is certain to join the next coach in Miami. With this in mind, the next coach should one who has worked with QBs and has had success mentoring them at the next level. With the exception of one, the names chosen here reflect that critical need.
Without further adieu, the coordinators…

Ryan comes from a prodigious family tree but his defenses have never lived been up to the standards set by his father and his brother. Buddy Ryan coached the famous Bears defenses of the 80’s and is known for perfecting the 46 defense. His brother coached the great Ravens defenses. In 8 years as a defensive coordinator, Ryan’s highest ranking in points allowed is 13th. His average ranking over those 8 years is 22nd. He is currently ranked 18th with the Cowboys.
Ryan’s flowing gray locks, his boisterous on the field manner, along with his pedigree give him a persona that seems to resonate with fans around the league. It is hard to place Ryan in the head-coaching job for the Miami Dolphins. He seems more hype and circumstance than a great coach, but there is no magic formula except the record of a coach in his previous positions. With an average ranking of 22nd in 8 years Ryan has not established himself as an elite coordinator. Miami would be taking quiet a chance if they were to hire Ryan, at one point, he may get a chance, but the situation in Miami would not be a good place to start.

Bruce Arians is the offensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Kansas City Chiefs hired him in 1988 as a running backs coach after 6 seasons as the head coach at Temple University. In 1993, he took over as offensive coordinator at Mississippi State for 3 seasons, and then moved on to the Saints for one season as the tight ends coach. He then spent one year as OC at Alabama.
His big break in the NFL came as the quarterbacks’ coach of the Indianapolis Colts in 1998. He was responsible for mentoring Peyton Manning in Manning’s first two NFL seasons. His success with Manning led to the offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns in 2001. During his stint with Kansas City, he worked with Bill Cowher. He reunited with Cowher in 2004 when Cowher hired him as the wide receivers coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers. In 2007, Cowher promoted him to the offensive coordinator job of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Arians is now responsible for coaching two of the best QBs currently playing in the NFL, Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Arians will get an opportunity as a NFL head coach, soon. He’s been a head coach in college and coordinator in the NFL. He has two Super Bowl rings with the Steelers. Having worked under a great leader in Bill Cowher, he was actually running backs coach for Paul Bear Bryant at Alabama prior to coaching at Temple. Arians knows how to win and that could place him on the Dolphins radar. The only draw back with Arians may be is age, at 59 his coaching days could be winding down.

O'Brien was hired as an offensive assistant in 2007 by the New England Patriots after two seasons with Duke. In 2008, Belichick promoted him to wide receivers coach. With the departure of offensive coordinator Josh McDaniel, he became the team's quarterback coach and offensive play-caller following the 2008 season, then offensive coordinator this season. O’Brien has been on a fast track in his coaching career raising first though the ranks at Georgia Tech and now through the New England Patriots.
At 42 years of age, O’Brien will be the next head coach to spring from the well of Belichick. He is a relentless worker who is responsible for developing the two tight end offense the Patriots have grown into the past two seasons. Having worked with Tom Brady he has seen first hand what makes a great NFL QB. O’Brien is another coach who should be on the short list for the Dolphins; his familiarity with the Patriots is a definite plus. The knock on O’Brien is he does not have any head-coaching experience at any level.

Carmichael is somewhat of an honorary offensive coordinator as head coach Sean Payton has called the offensive plays since arriving at New Orleans in 2006. After five years in the college ranks, Carmichael’s NFL career began with the Cleveland Browns in 2000 as an offensive assistant and tight ends coach. In 2001, he moved on the Washington Redskins as a quality control coach and then spent 2002-03 with the San Diego Chargers as an offensive assistant quality control coach, before a promotion to wide receivers coach in 2004 and 2005.
At 40 years old, Carmichael is a rising star in the NFL coaching fraternity. Drew Brees came of age under his tutelage and his close work with Sean Patton has created one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL. He is not widely known outside New Orleans, but he is no secret in the NFL and his next move could be head coach, though offensive coordinator, play caller is more likely. He is worth keeping an eye on in Miami because he is a young, up and coming coach with a bright future.

He has coached both Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers and his offense has ranked in the top 10 in total yards and total points. Along with the Patriots, Green Bay is one of only two teams in the league to accomplish that feat during his four years. Green Bay’s point total is fourth in the league over that span, trailing only New England, San Diego and New Orleans. Green Bay has reached the playoffs in three of Philbin’s four seasons.
Like Bill O’Brien, Philbin has adapted his offense to use multiple TEs in wide formations. His use of zone blocking has created an offensive line that is nimble and can protect Rodgers as he moves in the pocket. Philbin once quipped, "football's a pretty simple game, learn how to work with the guy next to you. I don't see that being a big issue." Philbin is 50 years old and has 6 children, though highly qualified for the next step he may not be a good fit for the Dolphins. He is a consummate family man and the glamour of Miami may not be a good fit for his family coming from the small town of Green Bay Wisconsin.
Next Installment, College Coaches...
Looking at Potential NFL Coordinators to Coach The Dolphins
2011-11-01T20:07:00-04:00
Patrick Tarell
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