A Dolphin first, second, and third for two firsts and a second?
In a desperate search for additional Miami Dolphin Draft scenarios, I just today realized that the Cincinnati Bengals have 2 first round picks at numbers seventeen and twenty-one with a second round selection at number fifty-three overall.. The total draft value of those three picks is 2120 points !!
The Dolphins have the eighth pick of the first round, a second round overall pick at number forty-two, and a third round selection at number seventy-two .. The total draft value of those three picks is 2110 points !!
In suggesting that the Bengals may have a desire for someone at the eighth pick, and the Dolphins may be looking to move down ??
Essentially, our Dolphins would be sliding down nine spots with their first pick (8 to 17), while taking a huge leap forward twenty-one spots from the second round back into the first round (42 to 21), and another dramatic nineteen hurdles forward from their scheduled third round pick back into the second round (72 to 53) !!
Miami's First, Second, and Third ( 8, 42, 72 ) for
Cincy's TWO First, and a Second ( 17, 21, 53 )..
We'd still have our second third round pick at number seventy-three to boot, so instead of having our scheduled 1st, 2nd, and TWO 3rds, we'd have TWO 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd..
If we were to trade down ?? This seems to be a more lucrative, possible option than the previously broken down options with Philadelphia at fifteen or Cleveland at twenty-two.
Mother, May I take 9 baby steps backwards?
"Yes, You May!"
Mother, May I take 40 giant leaps forward?
"Yes, You May!"
If The Bengals want someone at eight?
THANKS for an Open-Minded Read, as we look forward to your angle of view ;)!! Get one capable guy at eight, or Two at 17 and 21? What do you think? GOFINS : )!
2012 Draft Order.. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker
2012 Draft Value Chart.. http://drafttek.com/tradechart.html
Do the Miami Dolphins have a Potential Trade Partner with the Cincinnati Bengals?
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Friday, April 13, 2012
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Do the Miami Dolphins have a Potential Trade Partner with the Cincinnati Bengals?
2012-04-13T22:00:00-04:00
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Ryan Tannehill Actually Does Make Sense for the Miami Dolphins
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Thursday, April 12, 2012
Posted by
Paul Smythe
As many of you know, I have not been in favor of the Miami Dolphins drafting Texas A&M quarterback prospect Ryan Tannehill with their first round pick in the draft this year.
Well, I have since changed my mind. A friend of mine started to convince me that he has a lot of potential and recommended that I watch his tape again. So I did, and I have to say, Ryan Tannehill is actually pretty darn good. My biggest concern with Tannehill was his knack to fade away late in games, and I also questioned his decision making abilities. I'll divide this up into two separate sections so it's easier to read (I've been told I don't split up my thoughts well enough, so let me know if this works better).
1. Late Game Problems?
What I saw as Tannehill fading away late in games wasn't entirely his fault. It was actually people around him on Texas A&M fading away and putting him in tough positions. I'm sure that by know you know how bad Tannehill's receivers were. I watched Texas A&M's bowl game against Northwestern last season, and Tannehill's receivers dropped six passes by my count. It can be a serious momentum killer when a player drops a pass in a drive. In the NFL Tannehill won't really have to worry about receivers dropping his passes. He will have professional receivers who actually have good hands.
When a team isn't really able to do anything late in games I tend to place most of the blame on the quarterback, and I still stand by that. The quarterback needs to be the one who can step up when things aren't looking so good. A quarterback needs to be able to take the reins and put the team back on the winning track. But with Tannehill it wasn't completely his fault. He played well late in games. Not great, but well enough to not warrant a huge concern.
2. Decision Making
Tannehill's decision making really isn't that bad. I will admit my mistake here. I was too quick to just assume that he wasn't a great decision maker. I've watched his film. He makes a few bad decisions each game, but he's by no means a bad decision maker.
Actually, when you factor in that he was a wide receiver as a freshman, sophomore, and a little during his junior year you begin to appreciate how much he has developed already. His potential is very high. If he is properly developed I think he can be a great quarterback. One thing I noticed is that he is especially great throwing on the run. He makes good decisions and is right on point with his passes.
Would he fit in Miami?
That is the big question that we are all concerned about here. Would he work well with the Miami Dolphins?
Actually, I think the Dolphins would be the best possible fit for Tannehill. We have Mike Sherman as our offensive coordinator, who was his head coach during his entire career at Texas A&M except for his freshman year when he was redshirted. The two already know each other well, which would be an advantage.
Tannehill is also a great fit because he would do well in a west coast offense. He is a great passer on the run, he is very accurate, and he has already been taught the offense by Mike Sherman.
What should the Miami Dolphins do to get him?
I am a firm believer that Miami shouldn't trade up to get him unless they won't have to give up a lot (which isn't likely). I would be happy if they drafted him eighth overall. It might be a little high, which is something that I argued before, but you know what? It's not like they have a pick later in the first round that they can use instead. I'm starting to think that we look too much at value and not enough at individual team situations. If the Dolphins want Tannehill and don't think that they can get him in the second round then they should get him in the first.
Thank you guys for stopping by. Let me know what you think.
Feel free to email me at paul@dolphinshout.com or follow me on twitter @PaulDSmythe.
Want to watch some film on Ryan Tannehill? Here is a collection of videos.
Well, I have since changed my mind. A friend of mine started to convince me that he has a lot of potential and recommended that I watch his tape again. So I did, and I have to say, Ryan Tannehill is actually pretty darn good. My biggest concern with Tannehill was his knack to fade away late in games, and I also questioned his decision making abilities. I'll divide this up into two separate sections so it's easier to read (I've been told I don't split up my thoughts well enough, so let me know if this works better).
1. Late Game Problems?
What I saw as Tannehill fading away late in games wasn't entirely his fault. It was actually people around him on Texas A&M fading away and putting him in tough positions. I'm sure that by know you know how bad Tannehill's receivers were. I watched Texas A&M's bowl game against Northwestern last season, and Tannehill's receivers dropped six passes by my count. It can be a serious momentum killer when a player drops a pass in a drive. In the NFL Tannehill won't really have to worry about receivers dropping his passes. He will have professional receivers who actually have good hands.
When a team isn't really able to do anything late in games I tend to place most of the blame on the quarterback, and I still stand by that. The quarterback needs to be the one who can step up when things aren't looking so good. A quarterback needs to be able to take the reins and put the team back on the winning track. But with Tannehill it wasn't completely his fault. He played well late in games. Not great, but well enough to not warrant a huge concern.
2. Decision Making
Tannehill's decision making really isn't that bad. I will admit my mistake here. I was too quick to just assume that he wasn't a great decision maker. I've watched his film. He makes a few bad decisions each game, but he's by no means a bad decision maker.
Actually, when you factor in that he was a wide receiver as a freshman, sophomore, and a little during his junior year you begin to appreciate how much he has developed already. His potential is very high. If he is properly developed I think he can be a great quarterback. One thing I noticed is that he is especially great throwing on the run. He makes good decisions and is right on point with his passes.
Would he fit in Miami?
That is the big question that we are all concerned about here. Would he work well with the Miami Dolphins?
Actually, I think the Dolphins would be the best possible fit for Tannehill. We have Mike Sherman as our offensive coordinator, who was his head coach during his entire career at Texas A&M except for his freshman year when he was redshirted. The two already know each other well, which would be an advantage.
Tannehill is also a great fit because he would do well in a west coast offense. He is a great passer on the run, he is very accurate, and he has already been taught the offense by Mike Sherman.
What should the Miami Dolphins do to get him?
I am a firm believer that Miami shouldn't trade up to get him unless they won't have to give up a lot (which isn't likely). I would be happy if they drafted him eighth overall. It might be a little high, which is something that I argued before, but you know what? It's not like they have a pick later in the first round that they can use instead. I'm starting to think that we look too much at value and not enough at individual team situations. If the Dolphins want Tannehill and don't think that they can get him in the second round then they should get him in the first.
Thank you guys for stopping by. Let me know what you think.
Feel free to email me at paul@dolphinshout.com or follow me on twitter @PaulDSmythe.
Want to watch some film on Ryan Tannehill? Here is a collection of videos.
A Few Round Two Potential Dolphin Prospects
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Monday, April 09, 2012
Posted by
KennyV (13kvFINS) Nicholas
Ok, so now that you've gauged your preferred angle of approach to round one lets take a look at who we fans think might help the Miami Dolphins in round 2.
WR Mohamed Sanu Rutgers Jr, 6-2, 211, 4.44 forty, GRADE 84.0 .. Intangibles: A selfless player who head coach Greg Schiano raved about when Sanu announced that he was leaving early. He's meant a ton to this program. He's the guy who does everything. He'll be very hard to replace. I don't know if you ever replace him. You'll just have to have a few guys do his thing. Played all three years he was at Rutgers. "While Sanu lacks the elite timed speed to leaves scouts gasping he does possess an exciting blend of size, strength and natural open field running skills. Possessing the size to contribute at split end as well as the savvy route-running and courage to attack defenses from the slot. Sanu has several outstanding qualities but none more impressive than his natural receiving skills. Possesses very reliable hands and a wide catch radius due to his long arms, impressive flexibility, and hand-eye coordination. Extends and plucks the ball away from his frame when he senses the defender near. Very good jump-ball candidate due to strong leaping skills, long arms and timing. Sanu is better prepared than most collegiate receivers to make the NFL jump. " "He is a player who can separate well and excels in the short to intermediate passing game, an ideal receiver for a timing-based, pass-often offense. He has good size and is capable of making a lot of plays within a West Coast offense. He is a polished all-around player." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mohamed-sanu?id=2533040
Coby Fleener Stanford comes to the NFL at 6-6, 247, with a 4.45 forty, is the number One ranked Tight End, and holds an immediate starters GRADE of 85.2 .. "Fleener isn't a thumper as a blocker, but he does have surprising foot speed, agility and leaping ability for a player of his size, making him a legitimate threat down the seam." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/coby-fleener?id=2532838
Dwayne Allen Clemson Jr stands at 6-3, 255, with a 4.89 forty has a higher immediate starters GRADE of (87.0) than the number One TE in this 2012 draft, (depending on where you look).. He holds the One-A TE ranking on this list due to his inferior Red Zone height, speed, and experience to Fleener though he is a better blocker .. "An athletic receiving tight end prospect with decent blockinhttp://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifg skills. Allen has soft, natural hands and excellent ball skills. Speed is good, cuts and turning ability are impressive." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dwayne-allen?id=2533046
DT/DE Fletcher Cox, Mississippi St Jr, 6-4, 298, 4.79 forty, GRADE 77.0 .. "Cox is naturally big, plays bigger and is expected to grow even more in size and ability. A third-year junior, Cox was the only player from Mississippi State to be named All-SEC first team after he collected 56 tackles and five sacks last season. He works hard from kickoff until the final whistle, setting a pace for teammates and wearing down opponents. He showed very good explosion in combine testing. The light-footed Cox played both defense end and defensive tackle and his versatility will be an asset in the NFL." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/fletcher-cox?id=2533051
OLB/DE Whitney Mercilus, Illinois Jr, 6-4, 261, 4.68 forty, GRADE 72.5 .. "Mercilus was a human wrecking ball in 2011, in 16 starts he led the nation with 16 sacks, nine forced fumbles, and is one of the top pass rushers available in this year's draft. He will be best used by a creative defensive coordinator who moves him around the defensive front, he's a one-year performer, but has the make-up to be a top-40 pick." http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/whitney-mercilus?id=2533049
ILB Luke Kuechly Boston College, 6-3, 242, 4.58 forty, GRADE 91.0 .. I've had my eye on this guy for quite awhile, and always thought he reminded me of #54.. So today Im reading his bio while being reminded of his ZT type attributes, and as I get to the bottom it suggest "And he welcomes comparisons to past and current NFL players known primarily as great tacklers. A popular comparison is former Dolphins perennial Pro Bowler Zach Thomas. Exceptional on-field hustle, instincts, and off-field work ethic. Should garner top general, football character, and intelligence grades." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664814/luke-kuechly I'M SOLD, even though we don't really need an ILB !! We didn't need an ILB before drafting ZACH either, we had just landed FA ILB Jack DelRio to man the position.. Luke averaged 14 tackles per game over three seasons, I don't see a problem with Karlos Dansby going outside if we had a ZT-type at ILB..http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/luke-kuechly?id=2533056
WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech Jr, 6-4, 215, 4.36 forty, GRADE 74.0 .. "The route polish isn't quite there but his athletic traits are really outstanding and exceptionally rare for the position, a tall, imposing WR with long arms and big hands. As a blocker, Hill is outstanding, consistently locating, controlling, moving, and pancaking smaller DBs, and more than holding his own against LBs." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537
WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina Jr, 6-3, 216, 4.47 forty, GRADE 82.0 .. "Possesses a rare combination of hand-eye coordination, body control and hand strength. Can make the circus grab look easy and already has compiled an impressive number of dazzling one-handed grabs. Good flexibility to extend and pluck the ball high and wide, as well as behind him. Tracks the ball well over either shoulder." http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/alshon-jeffery?id=2533039
RT Mike Adams Ohio State, 6-7, 323, GRADE 54.0 .. Though one's opinion is that of a 54.0 grade, Mike Mayock has him as the 3rd ranked OT while CBS, and myself have him at 4th.. "Tall, long, athletic pass protector. Solid positional run blocker who flashes the nasty demeanor and killer instinct scouts covet. Best on the outside because of his height and athleticism, but is capable of blocking on the move. Effective in space and usually drops his hips to get leverage and sustain against shorter defenders. Excellent quick-twitch movement off the snap in pass protection and as a run blocker."
OT Marcell Jones Nebraska, 6-6, 320, GRADE 82.7 .. "Passes the eye test, impressive frame, thick lower half and overall length, has the athleticism and foot quickness to do the job in a short area. Improved fundamentals. Very good toughness." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marcel-jones?id=2532881
OT Mitchell Schwartz California, 6-5, 318, GRADE 58.0, "was a model of consistency at Cal, starting 51 games, 35 at left tackle and 16 at right tackle. He credits diverse blocking schemes at Cal for upgrading his overall play, and that play was impressive at the Senior Bowl workouts, where scouts raved about the way he handled some of the best pass rushers in the country. That was particularly surprising because most scouts believed he projected as a right tackle for the NFL."
OLB Bobby Wagner Utah State, 6-0, 241, 4.48 forty.. "A four-year starter, two-year captain and three-time All-WAC honoree, Wagner can be called short, but he's not small. He packs the power of a man much larger and uses that effectively to tackle anybody with the audacity to be in his vicinity with a football. Experienced pass rusher with enough burst to slip by offensive tackles and enough power to blow through running backs left in pass protection. Possesses a thick build with impressive overall musculature. Intelligent and dedicated. Capable of contributing early in his career."
OLB Zach Brown North Carolina, 6-1, 244, 4.50 forty, GRADE 91.0 .. "He is only beginning to learn how to maximize his exceptional ability on a football field, but Brown is fast and fascinating." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/zach-brown?id=2532804
SORRY FOLKS !! I've decided to take a different One on One type of approach to the review of 2012 Quarterback Prospects which will begin to take place later in the week.. I'm sure you'll like what I've decided upon, but for now I ask for your patience on that subject, and your thorough review of the above potentialities..
In order to positionally mesh with whoever your personal first round favorite's at eight, or in a trade down scenario.. While if you are thinking first round trade down ?? PLEASE choose TWO, and/or offer those you like that may not be on the above list !! Who do you like in ROUND TWO ??
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664646/mohamed-sanu
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:wr
Thanks for an Open-Minded Read, as we look forward to your angle of view : ) !! GOFINS!!
WR Mohamed Sanu Rutgers Jr, 6-2, 211, 4.44 forty, GRADE 84.0 .. Intangibles: A selfless player who head coach Greg Schiano raved about when Sanu announced that he was leaving early. He's meant a ton to this program. He's the guy who does everything. He'll be very hard to replace. I don't know if you ever replace him. You'll just have to have a few guys do his thing. Played all three years he was at Rutgers. "While Sanu lacks the elite timed speed to leaves scouts gasping he does possess an exciting blend of size, strength and natural open field running skills. Possessing the size to contribute at split end as well as the savvy route-running and courage to attack defenses from the slot. Sanu has several outstanding qualities but none more impressive than his natural receiving skills. Possesses very reliable hands and a wide catch radius due to his long arms, impressive flexibility, and hand-eye coordination. Extends and plucks the ball away from his frame when he senses the defender near. Very good jump-ball candidate due to strong leaping skills, long arms and timing. Sanu is better prepared than most collegiate receivers to make the NFL jump. " "He is a player who can separate well and excels in the short to intermediate passing game, an ideal receiver for a timing-based, pass-often offense. He has good size and is capable of making a lot of plays within a West Coast offense. He is a polished all-around player." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mohamed-sanu?id=2533040
Coby Fleener Stanford comes to the NFL at 6-6, 247, with a 4.45 forty, is the number One ranked Tight End, and holds an immediate starters GRADE of 85.2 .. "Fleener isn't a thumper as a blocker, but he does have surprising foot speed, agility and leaping ability for a player of his size, making him a legitimate threat down the seam." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/coby-fleener?id=2532838
Dwayne Allen Clemson Jr stands at 6-3, 255, with a 4.89 forty has a higher immediate starters GRADE of (87.0) than the number One TE in this 2012 draft, (depending on where you look).. He holds the One-A TE ranking on this list due to his inferior Red Zone height, speed, and experience to Fleener though he is a better blocker .. "An athletic receiving tight end prospect with decent blockinhttp://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifg skills. Allen has soft, natural hands and excellent ball skills. Speed is good, cuts and turning ability are impressive." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dwayne-allen?id=2533046
DT/DE Fletcher Cox, Mississippi St Jr, 6-4, 298, 4.79 forty, GRADE 77.0 .. "Cox is naturally big, plays bigger and is expected to grow even more in size and ability. A third-year junior, Cox was the only player from Mississippi State to be named All-SEC first team after he collected 56 tackles and five sacks last season. He works hard from kickoff until the final whistle, setting a pace for teammates and wearing down opponents. He showed very good explosion in combine testing. The light-footed Cox played both defense end and defensive tackle and his versatility will be an asset in the NFL." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/fletcher-cox?id=2533051
OLB/DE Whitney Mercilus, Illinois Jr, 6-4, 261, 4.68 forty, GRADE 72.5 .. "Mercilus was a human wrecking ball in 2011, in 16 starts he led the nation with 16 sacks, nine forced fumbles, and is one of the top pass rushers available in this year's draft. He will be best used by a creative defensive coordinator who moves him around the defensive front, he's a one-year performer, but has the make-up to be a top-40 pick." http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/whitney-mercilus?id=2533049
ILB Luke Kuechly Boston College, 6-3, 242, 4.58 forty, GRADE 91.0 .. I've had my eye on this guy for quite awhile, and always thought he reminded me of #54.. So today Im reading his bio while being reminded of his ZT type attributes, and as I get to the bottom it suggest "And he welcomes comparisons to past and current NFL players known primarily as great tacklers. A popular comparison is former Dolphins perennial Pro Bowler Zach Thomas. Exceptional on-field hustle, instincts, and off-field work ethic. Should garner top general, football character, and intelligence grades." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664814/luke-kuechly I'M SOLD, even though we don't really need an ILB !! We didn't need an ILB before drafting ZACH either, we had just landed FA ILB Jack DelRio to man the position.. Luke averaged 14 tackles per game over three seasons, I don't see a problem with Karlos Dansby going outside if we had a ZT-type at ILB..http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/luke-kuechly?id=2533056
WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech Jr, 6-4, 215, 4.36 forty, GRADE 74.0 .. "The route polish isn't quite there but his athletic traits are really outstanding and exceptionally rare for the position, a tall, imposing WR with long arms and big hands. As a blocker, Hill is outstanding, consistently locating, controlling, moving, and pancaking smaller DBs, and more than holding his own against LBs." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537
WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina Jr, 6-3, 216, 4.47 forty, GRADE 82.0 .. "Possesses a rare combination of hand-eye coordination, body control and hand strength. Can make the circus grab look easy and already has compiled an impressive number of dazzling one-handed grabs. Good flexibility to extend and pluck the ball high and wide, as well as behind him. Tracks the ball well over either shoulder." http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/alshon-jeffery?id=2533039
RT Mike Adams Ohio State, 6-7, 323, GRADE 54.0 .. Though one's opinion is that of a 54.0 grade, Mike Mayock has him as the 3rd ranked OT while CBS, and myself have him at 4th.. "Tall, long, athletic pass protector. Solid positional run blocker who flashes the nasty demeanor and killer instinct scouts covet. Best on the outside because of his height and athleticism, but is capable of blocking on the move. Effective in space and usually drops his hips to get leverage and sustain against shorter defenders. Excellent quick-twitch movement off the snap in pass protection and as a run blocker."
OT Marcell Jones Nebraska, 6-6, 320, GRADE 82.7 .. "Passes the eye test, impressive frame, thick lower half and overall length, has the athleticism and foot quickness to do the job in a short area. Improved fundamentals. Very good toughness." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marcel-jones?id=2532881
OT Mitchell Schwartz California, 6-5, 318, GRADE 58.0, "was a model of consistency at Cal, starting 51 games, 35 at left tackle and 16 at right tackle. He credits diverse blocking schemes at Cal for upgrading his overall play, and that play was impressive at the Senior Bowl workouts, where scouts raved about the way he handled some of the best pass rushers in the country. That was particularly surprising because most scouts believed he projected as a right tackle for the NFL."
OLB Bobby Wagner Utah State, 6-0, 241, 4.48 forty.. "A four-year starter, two-year captain and three-time All-WAC honoree, Wagner can be called short, but he's not small. He packs the power of a man much larger and uses that effectively to tackle anybody with the audacity to be in his vicinity with a football. Experienced pass rusher with enough burst to slip by offensive tackles and enough power to blow through running backs left in pass protection. Possesses a thick build with impressive overall musculature. Intelligent and dedicated. Capable of contributing early in his career."
OLB Zach Brown North Carolina, 6-1, 244, 4.50 forty, GRADE 91.0 .. "He is only beginning to learn how to maximize his exceptional ability on a football field, but Brown is fast and fascinating." http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/zach-brown?id=2532804
SORRY FOLKS !! I've decided to take a different One on One type of approach to the review of 2012 Quarterback Prospects which will begin to take place later in the week.. I'm sure you'll like what I've decided upon, but for now I ask for your patience on that subject, and your thorough review of the above potentialities..
In order to positionally mesh with whoever your personal first round favorite's at eight, or in a trade down scenario.. While if you are thinking first round trade down ?? PLEASE choose TWO, and/or offer those you like that may not be on the above list !! Who do you like in ROUND TWO ??
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664646/mohamed-sanu
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:wr
Thanks for an Open-Minded Read, as we look forward to your angle of view : ) !! GOFINS!!
A Few Round Two Potential Dolphin Prospects
2012-04-09T23:45:00-04:00
KennyV (13kvFINS) Nicholas
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