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Miami Dolphins Keeping Ronnie Brown? Why Not?

at Monday, March 07, 2011 Posted by Paul Smythe

Today I would like to put a thought by you guys that we have just been assuming won't happen, but could very easily happen:

Why don't the Miami Dolphins just keep Ronnie Brown?

I know he didn't have the best season last year, but a big reason for that was the Dolphins offensive line's inability to run block. If Miami had a better offensive line, then I am confident Ronnie would have been a lot more successful.

I also know that Ronnie doesn't really have breakaway speed, but he is still a very manageable running back. The Dolphins could just draft a fast running back late in the draft to compliment Brown. Having Brown and a speed back would solve Miami's running back problems, and it would keep them from having to draft Mark Ingram with their first pick.

Everyone is just assuming that Brown is leaving the Dolphins this offseason, and that might not be the case. Brown has said that he would love to stay in Miami, so why not keep him? He is still a very good running back.

So, I want to know whether you guys would be opposed to bringing back. His contract probably wouldn't be very high, which would be another plus.

Thanks for reading, and let me know what you think.

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Reddog · 735 weeks ago

So now they can draft a "O" lineman again!!!!!!! They did that last time, and he is a great lineman but it still didn't help their offense.. Either trade for a Qb and draft a running back. Or the opposite, my opinion !!!!!!!!!

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Polly · 735 weeks ago

Ronnie can work well for our offense, but we need a offense so he can be productive. QB is a must!!!!!!!!! What about Ocho coming? Might be good to have, matched up next to Marshall. We do have Bess for speed.

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john dfinns · 735 weeks ago

just what I was thinking all along keep ronnie and trade down in the draft for one of these elite qbs. if we don't address this now we'll be in need of a qb next year as well. lets not delay the inevitable.

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kongkilla · 735 weeks ago

are you guys stupid or what..draft what qb, the qb's in the draft this year are spread offense qb's..they are a gamble..not much of an offensive lineman that stands out..ronnie brown is good but very injury prone..i think the safe first round pick would be mark igram..and i think will find some gems in the later rounds this year..

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PaulSmythe 93p · 735 weeks ago

Just because ESPN analysts tell you that the Dolphins are going to draft Ingram doesn't mean they will or should. Kiper and McShay are going off of limited knowledge of the Dolphins. Ryan Mallett will be everything we are looking for in a quarterback, and the Dolphins need to take a chance on him instead of getting Ingram. Running backs drafted in later rounds have a better chance of being successful than QBs drafted in later rounds. Therefore, we should worry about running backs in the later rounds.

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kongkilla · 735 weeks ago

and what planet are you from..espn huh..what espn..don't even follow it braddah..
let me remind you...hmmm tom brady(7th round), phil simms(11th round), drew breez(2nd round), or jeff hostetler(3rd round) and tony romo, jeff garcia,, or delome were not drafted..all those qb's did well in their careers who were "DRAFTED IN THE LATER ROUNDS or NOT Drafted at all"..
yes, a running back can be selected in the later rounds, but why do that when we can get igram..its either that or trade away our 15th overall pick for the lower rounds for a olineman..

as i have said before time and time again, why not trade for matt flynn and bring in kyle orton through free agency..

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PaulSmythe 93p · 735 weeks ago

Sure those guys turned out well, but what about the other 95% of QBs who were drafted later it not at all

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

Kyle Orton is not Free Agent, and Matt Flynn is a nobody that has never started except in emergencies. There is no tract record with him. We are not QBless by the way. Henne has some experience, he knows the system and he is going to be ahead of a guy like Flynn. So why bring him here ? What good is a change of QB if we don't bring in someone that has at least some tract record that is better than Henne. I don't see Flynn being that guy...

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kongkilla · 735 weeks ago

brett farve was a nobody for the atlanta falcons, but played a couple of games to impress green bay, hasselbek played a good preseason and at lease one game to impress seattle..yeah, matt flynn played one game and was impressive, maybe not enough to tell if he would pan out, but he surely had the swagger or leadership that chad henne dosen't have..kyle orton i believe is not free agent yet..or maybe trade henne for kyle orton, because what i've heard is that they are starting tim tibow, and then we can draft a qb in the later rounds..i agree with you in one thing riverdog, oline is a must..
the qb's in the first rounds are suspect..
they are spread offense guys..
history says that they would suck in the nfl..
klinger(bengals..wasn't able to transition)
ware(detroit..same thing)
mckoy(didn't do anything yet)
vince young(suspect on free agency)
micheal chang(still a 2nd or 3rd stringer..or not playing in the nfl at all)
the problem with most of these qb's is the inability to make the transition

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

You are so correct Kong as are few others here are, there are only a few QBs in this draft that run a pro style offense, and none of them are early round picks. I don't know about you but if we take someone in the first round it needs to be someone the team needs and he must be able to step in and be a starter. Why draft a guy unless that happens ?

No matter how much I may like one or any of the leading QBs in this years draft, none of them have the ability to step into the starters role. So if that's the case then I feel the phins should draft someone that can do that. Prospects are nice, but not for the early round picks. WE NEED PLAYERS not a maybe. Newton and Mallet are maybe's and that makes them 2nd round picks of which we don't have.

Every now and then we all come up with something that is quite funny, but that doesn't make us comedians. I feel the same way about a guy like Matt Flynn or that guy with the Bears. They had one nice game and showed us a little something, but that doesn't make them an NFL QB. There are other guys that will be out there before the season starts, just like Pennington was. There is no need to go after a guy like Flynn, unless they do so with the idea that we will go get him and not draft a QB at all. That would make some sense.

I don't think we will see that happening if a CBA is not signed soon. If that doesn't get done all the teams will go into the draft blind, and in that case Miami is likely to draft a QB somewhere in this draft IMO.

Hey wasn't this about Ronnie Brown coming back ? :))

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Polly · 735 weeks ago

Yes this was about Ronnie Brown coming back.
QB just seem to be a never ending problem in Miami. I think we should draft a QB and keep Henne as backup. We need a much better OL in order to make RBrown more effective, if he stays. Effectiveness might also prevent some of those injuries.

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phinfan86 · 735 weeks ago

orton was officially announced as Broncos starting qb next season months ago. I see Palmer being the best fit or Kolb. I know most people dont see why Kolb would be a good choice but in his multiple starts he was successful each time, he has what it takes, and he is not injury prone. All the speculation about his toughness isnt warranted. The concussion he received last season could have happened to anyone. Whoever thinks differently apparently didnt see him get hit. Id like to see anyone else shake off having a LB running full speed and driving your head into the turf and then landing on top of you. I was watching the game when it happened made me cringe.

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Shawn · 735 weeks ago

These qbs also benefited from having good o-lines and running games, and Brady is a product of Belichick's system. Forget Romo.

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Lou · 735 weeks ago

I agree... not only are the QB's available notthe NFL prototypes, but our current coaching staff, they probably go out and get the worst possible player... I also say, as I have been saying many times, to the point of ranting, raving and jumping up and down, get Ingram and let's back to football basics..."those can can run the ball and stop the run, win championships" and let's quit the fan obcesion with the "big play".

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PaulSmythe 93p · 735 weeks ago

<DIV>"those can can run the ball and stop the run, win championships"</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>When was the last time a run-first team won a championship?

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Lou · 735 weeks ago

OK, as far as the Dolphins go, in 1972, and although we had Warfield, Mandich, and others, we won with Czonka and Kiick leading the team, and let's face it, Griese wasn't the strongest arm in the NFL... so the bombs away theory didn't apply. 1986, The Bears won behind Walter Peyton, although he didn't really shine in the Superbowl per se. Yes the Bears had Mcmahon, but the team was known as a grinding running team. During the Marino years, we had one of the greatest QB's ever, but no running game... How far did they go? Maybe I'm little older than you all, but a couple of years ago , the Dolphins were unstoppable behind Williams and Brown and we only lost leads, when we got away from running plays and went 3 and out in just about every drive after that, hence blowing a lead. I'm not a statestician and maybe I should have used the term games instead of championships, but I'm tired of hearing all about the big play and let's prioritize getting a QB under the present regime. I will argue the need for a stronger and deeper O line and a star RB over a QB with a questionable O line and coaching staff anyday. There!

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Bill · 735 weeks ago

I think the time for Ronnie is over. And it pains me to say that because he's been one of my favorite Dolphins since they drafted him. I think they'll look for a RB with more speed (cough DeAngelo Williams, cough!) Having said all that, he could be back with the Dolphins, but it all comes down to how much money he can get on the open market.

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PaulSmythe 93p · 735 weeks ago

Very true, him coming or leaving will probably depend on how much he can get elsewhere.

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Jake Powell · 735 weeks ago

Ricky has more in his tank than Ronnie; but I think Ricky probably burnt his bridges.

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phinfan86 · 735 weeks ago

i would like to see ronnie back but for the right price. There are a couple things that contributed to his poor performance this season, the o-line was terrible and the wildcat seemed to change him as a runner. Hes become alot more indecisive the last couple of seasons. Before the wildcat he was a force to be reckoned with i think dabol will change all that. I would bring in a speed runner to compliment him but it probably wont be DeAngelo Williams carolina has made it clear they intend to keep him but who knows its a long offseason anything can happen. I still think Miami should use there first pick on ingram. Either that or they should trade down in the first round see if they can get a second round pick as well.

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TXDOLFAN · 735 weeks ago

Don't forget Kory Sheets. He's fast and will be back. There's the speed back we need this year. Right now, we need beasts up front to open holes for whoever carries the ball. Until that happens, you can bring in whoever you want and have the same results as last year. Yes, we also need QB help and I believe that will be in Round 3.

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Michael McBride · 735 weeks ago

Are you nuts!!!! The Dolphins should trade Brown for a QB or a second round draft pick if they can find someone stipid enough to trade with them.

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PaulSmythe 93p · 735 weeks ago

He had one bad year because of a bad offensive line and ineffective passing game.

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the beast · 733 weeks ago

dude are yiu nuttttsssssss!!!!!!! point blank is this... if you lose Ronnie - New England will pick him up in a heart beat and he will destroy miami when you play

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ohiodolfan · 735 weeks ago

Keep ronnie, draft Ingram. Or and this is really for Paul....Draft a QB keep ronnie and invest in Sheets and draft a late round back.

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PaulSmythe 93p · 735 weeks ago

That's what I'm talking about!

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

The running game is broken. The offensive line is broken. The QB is broken.

What position fixes 2 of those problems ? Offensive line hands down. RB is never going to be an elite running back. In Todays game a team doesn't need one. Ronnie Brown would be alright along with some speed backing him up. I don't see Ingram being a big step up from Ronnie.

After coming back trom ESPN the weekend in WDW and seeing and hearing D Williams of the Panthers, he has no intentions of leaving them. He sounded as if he has made his mind up of returning to them, he's not going anywhere.

I have no idea what these guys will do. How ever they are all desendents of Parcells, and I can't think of time where he went for a QB in the first round, so I don't think his children will either.

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Rey · 735 weeks ago

Riverdog as usual you are on the money. I have been a Ronnie fan since the beginning- and how can you not like someone who plays hard and tough on the field, is humble and respectful off the field, and is in general a great kid. However, he has proven to be brittle, and for a running back that is not good. his style reminds me of Earl Campbell...he seeks collisions and as such will get hurt more often than not. He is a thunder guy when at his best and what we need is lightning. I think the door on Ricky Williams is about to close, but I dont think we should spend the money he could probably get elsewhere on a running back when 1. they are so available in the draft and 2. WE NEED ANOTHER OFFENSIVE LINEMAN!!!!

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

Rey : Wait for the season to get here, when my thinking cap gets thrown into the corner and I stomp on it. All reasoning will go out the window at that time... lol

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Lou · 735 weeks ago

Hey, I have been a fan of Ronnie Brown since the begining also, but one can't deny he is injury prone. I also love Ricky Williams and the reason they didn't shine last season was because of 1, play calling and 2, by the time they got around to it, our O line was all destroyed because of injuries. OK, now, I say, keep Ronnie, let Williams go (he, understandibly, doesn't want to play Sparano, and I don't blame him), draft Ingram and use the rest draft of the draft to strengthen and deepen the O line, and maybe next year, Ross will have gotten it by then, and we will have either Cowhert or Grudden (if they are still available by then), dumb and dumber will be gone and we get Luck from Stanford. There!

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TXDOLFAN · 735 weeks ago

Ireland will not draft a QB in the first round, a la Parcells and don't expect a WR either, a la Parcells. Do expect help for the OL, DL or LB in the first. I predict an QB in the third if they draft one. This Enderle from Idaho, a projected late rounder, is getting some interest besides Mallett, I think the Trifecta, less one, will go down some and select Pouncey in the first and pick up another draft pick. 15 is a good one to trade but what the team is looking for is not there at 15 for what they want to pay.

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Dereak · 735 weeks ago

Keep Ronnie for sure and get rid of Hennie. Get a QB that can help the running backs with his ark. Once the passing game starts working the running game gets a great boost. Vince Young comes to mind a great scrambling QB with an accurate arm and a winner in all phases of the game. I certainly do not know what the head coach and GM is thinking about Hennie's QB capabilities are. He has been a failure in Miami get rid of him and move on. But definitely keep Ronnie Brown around for another season.

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Dr. B · 735 weeks ago

I don't think Henne is as bad as most of you like to say he is. If we draft a QB in the first round, all of you will be complaining about him half way through the season. Whether it be that he's not starting or that he sucks and you can't believe they drafted him. Yeah we could have drafted Matt Ryan, but really I don't think he was a fit for our system. If the QB doesn't fit the system then he will suck. We got Long and I loved the pick, I also loved the pick of Henne. I think with a productive offseason and work with Marshall he will do great. He just needs to stop worrying about making the wrong throw and let it fly. I think it's funny that when he was making big time throws everyone was on board, but when he started playing sparano's game and worried about turning the ball over then he started sucking.

Ingram would be a great pick for us. It would be like the younger days of Ricky here, plus his father was a good player for us in the 90's. If the line can stay healthy then we do have a solid O-line, its just staying healthy.

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phinfan86 · 735 weeks ago

well said Dr. B i agree with you 100%

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

Doc : It's Henne's job to do as his coaches say. I think the coaches were losing confidence in Henne as the year went along. It was clear Marshall didn't trust him that's for sure !! What it is hard to understand for me is why the coaches continued to play him !! Which leads me to think Sparano didn't have control over who to start. Yes that means that TS was a puppet on the sideline and in the locker room.

Hopefully this year will be different. Parcell's is gone ( no loss there ) and so is the loyalty to him from both TS and JI. I don't expect things to change that much for drafting or FA, I do expect things to be different with these guys having more power over the coaching staff and player personnel. In a way the team is starting all over again.

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TXDOLFAN · 735 weeks ago

Personally, I think Parcells is till with the team but staying in the shadows and dispensing "advice". I believe he is the puppet master and is the reason that TS is still the HC. I believe Cowher wanted the job but Parcells had Ireland in place and that would have had to change. Cowher has more championships. Anyway, Henne will probably be the starter next season and all we can hope is that Daboll better utilizes our talent. If Henne continues to struggle, then bring in the back-up and quit horsing around and waiting for the sun to come up.

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

TX : I hope you are wrong about Parcell's still pulling the strings. Also I'm not sure Cowher wanted to come here at all or if he was asked as many think he was along with Gruden. I have to admit if I were either of those 2 I would want to have "my people" in place also. I don't think Boss Ross wanted to lose Ireland so there was no reason to offer a job to either of those 2. Both of them told there agents what they wanted and there was no use after contacting there agents to go any further. Next year it could be a different story, but I think there is an outside chance that Ireland and Sparano will get the next 2 years to either make or break it here in Miami.

As it stands at this time Henne is the starter next year until we hear or they (the coaches) see things differently. The only thing that changes that is the drafting of a QB in the first round or a pick up via a trade or FA for a somewhat QB with more up side then Henne.

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Shawn · 735 weeks ago

Draft O-line, qb, and running back. Keep Brown but at a lower price.

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

Shawn : I think we will see them do that, but in what order ?

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Shawn · 735 weeks ago

As long as Sparano and Ireland are not playing rock,paper,scissors when making these decisions.

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DAN · 735 weeks ago

I agree with lots of above comments...seems smart move would be keeping Brown, and spending draft choices on top-notch linemen.

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phinfan86 · 735 weeks ago

its really a tough decision to make, with all the issues to address its hard to say which is the best to deal with first. I think the o-line and running back situation should be fixed first then worry about bringing in another qb because regardless unless miami lands palmer, kolb, or another vet who could jump in and start then henne will be the starter next season and i think with dabol at the healm of the offense could be a good thing.

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Riverdog · 735 weeks ago

PP86 : I'm not sure if you think that Henne is the real deal or you think he is just the best option at this point in time. I'm of the belief that the coaching staff was really messing up last year, starting with Sparano and not Henning. Don't get me wrong Henning was awful, but Sparano was worse. He could have changed any play he didn't like and never did so that I know of. So he was as much to blame as Henning was for what we saw on the field. No matter that still doesn't cover the fact that Henne has some real problems in every phase of his game. When we look back at what happened with him and see not everything was his fault. He was still not very good, and I doubt that he would have won any more games than what he did even without the drops and the pics that weren't his fault. Henne is fair until crunch time, and then he folds up like a step ladder and looks for the garage.

So for me until I see Daboll making better choices in play selection and player development nothing has changed. In addition to that why would Sparano bring in a OC that had worse stats than the one we had, ran the WC more than the dolphins did. That was huge problem for Miami, the WC broke the momentum of the offense countless times, and a big reason Miami never found a flow to the offense all year long and that started way back in the pre-season.

It's tough for me to have trust in these guys, when I think a PeeWee coach could do a better a job.

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phinfan86 · 735 weeks ago

I still have some faith in henne, but he is also the best option miami has. Your right sparano is just as much to blame as henning if not more so. Dabol was a strange hire and i dont trust him anymore then the rest of the staff. All im saying is you cant count henne out because of how dysfunctional the front office and the coaching staff is. Yes he didnt do well but neither did any of the coaches or the oline or the running game, with so many issues u cant say that henne isnt the guy because we wont know until the offense is finally running smoothly and everyone is on the same page.

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Peter · 730 weeks ago

Ronnie Brown is a great back so is Ricky Williams. Miami's problems last season was Dan Henning the QC and Chad Hennie the QB not Brown or Williams. It would be foolish to get rid of either one of them for an unproven college running back Ingram. All college players look great until they reach the NFL and you notice they do not have what it takes to succeed in the NFL. Ingram is one of them. Keep Ricky and Ronnie and forget about of drafting Ingram period.

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DoLfAN1 · 730 weeks ago

R Brown had his chance in miami. All I saw was an rb that could not stay heathy for a full season. In 2010 he stayed healthy for the 1st time in his phin career. WHAT did he do with 2010. NOTHING He was a dud. Oh every time he had abreak away run he was caugt from behind. No speed what so ever. DUD! Itstime to go in another direction. Please DOLHIN franchise go in another direction.

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Finzone · 730 weeks ago

Brown still has some gas in the tank so i'd like to see him back!!! The decline in stats is not entirely his fault, Sporanos brilliant coaching did that!!!

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